For besides being happier than we are, they will also be immortal, if what is said is true. Had I the same, I should have been very proud and conceited; but the truth is that I have no knowledge of the kind. I can give you convincing evidence of what I say, not words only, but what you value far more, actions.
And so, forsooth, the youth are said to be taught them by Socrates, when there arc not infrequently exhibitions of them at the theatre price of admission one drachma at the most ; and they might pay their money, and laugh at Socrates if he pretends to father these extraordinary views.
I Forum 2 the apology socrates to know who the person is, who, in the first place, knows the laws. Well, Athenians, this and the like of this is all the defense which I have to offer.
And rightly, as I think. But suppose I ask you a question: For if, O men of Athens, by force of persuasion and entreaty I could overpower your oaths, then I should be teaching you to believe that there are no gods, and in defending should simply convict myself of the charge of not believing in them.
But that is not so, far otherwise. If you ask me what kind of wisdom, I reply, wisdom such as may perhaps be attained by every man, for to that extent I am inclined to believe that I am wise; whereas the persons of whom I was speaking have a superhuman wisdom, which I may fail to describe, because I have it not myself; and he who says that I have, speaks falsely, and is taking away my character.
I would have you know, that if you kill such an one as I am, you will injure yourselves more than you will injure me. These are the lessons by which I corrupt the youth, as you say.
There is another thing: I might mention a great many others, some of whom Meletus should have produced as witnesses in the course of his speech; and let him still produce them, if he has forgotten, I will make way for him. For all these are ready to witness on behalf of the corrupter, of the injurer of their kindred, as Meletus and Anytus call me; not the corrupted youth only, there might have been a motive for that, but their uncorrupted elder relatives.
Come hither, Meletus, and let me ask a question of you. Do not then require me to do what I consider dishonorable and impious and wrong, especially now, when I am being tried for impiety on the indictment of Meletus. These activities earned him much admiration amongst the youth of Athens, but much hatred and anger from the people he embarrassed.
That the false accusations of his being a corrupter of youth began at the time of his obedience to the Oracle at Delphiand tells how Chaerephon went to the Oracle, to ask her the priestess if there was a man wiser than Socrates. He says that their condemnation of him resulted not from a lack of arguments, but from a lack of time — and an unwillingness to pander for pity, as expected of a man condemned to death.
So I left him, saying to myself, as I went away: He explains that he has no experience with the law courts and that he will instead speak in the manner to which he is accustomed: Yet one word more.
That material wealth is a consequence of goodness; that the god does not permit a better man to be harmed by a lesser man; and that he is the social gadfly required by Athens: When I heard the answer, I said to myself, What can the god mean?
He also warns the jurymen who voted against him that in silencing their critic rather than listening to him, they have harmed themselves much more than they have harmed him.
But of the many falsehoods told by them, there was one which quite amazed me; I mean when they said that you should be upon your guard and not allow yourselves to be deceived by the force of my eloquence.
The hour of departure has arrived, and we go our separate ways, I to die, and you to live. For of old I have had many accusers, who have accused me falsely to you during many years; and I am more afraid of them than of Anytus and his associates, who are dangerous, too, in their own way.
Such nonsense, Meletus, could only have been intended by you to make trial of me. One man is able to do them good, the trainer of horses, that is to say, does them good, and others who have to do with them rather injure them?
And yet, I know that my plainness of speech makes them hate me, and what is their hatred but a proof that I am speaking the truth? And I shall repeat the same words to every one whom I meet, young and old, citizen and alien, but especially to the citizens, inasmuch as they are my brethren.
Is not the exact opposite fact does the truth? Now if you suppose that there is no consciousness, but a sleep like the sleep of him who is undisturbed even by dreams, death will be an unspeakable gain.
If my offense is unintentional, the law has no cognizance of unintentional offenses: Is not this ignorance of a disgraceful sort, the ignorance which is the conceit that a man knows what he does not know? Why do I mention this? Whereupon I made another enemy of him, and of many others besides him.
Such is the charge; and now let us examine the particular counts.PHIL Week 2 Forum Answer one of the questions below (not all three): (1) In the Apology, Socrates refuses to accept any lesser form of punishment (such as a fine or exile). As such Socrates is sentenced to death%(17).
Among the primary sources about the trial and death of the philosopher Socrates (– BC), the Apology of Socrates is the dialogue that depicts the trial, and is one of four Socratic dialogues, along with Euthyphro, Phaedo, and Crito, through which Plato details the final days of the philosopher Socrates.
Socrates – “The Apology” or (Defense) Socrates had no written work, never had a job and there are questions of whether he was even literate.
However, Plato was a student of Socrates and recorded what occurred at his death trial. Jul 29, · I had to make this for my Classical Studies class!
It's badly made but I put a lot of effort into it:D Made this with killarney10mile.com Original Video is here. Socrates: How you, O Athenians, have been affected by my accusers, I cannot tell; but I know that they almost made me forget who I was, so persuasivel Plato, The Apology of Socrates - Greek (Hellenic) History Forum.
Socrates then proceeds to interrogate Meletus, the man primarily responsible for bringing Socrates before the jury. This is the only instance in The Apology of the elenchus, or cross-examination, which is so central to most Platonic dialogues.Download